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Episode 5 – Fred Koolhof: People, elephants, and dialogue
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In this episode, we speak with Fred Koolhof about the power of dialogue in facilitating communication between groups and understanding and resolving conflict. This conversation is especially relevant to the people-centric concept of human security, which compels us to think more deeply about understanding how different groups and populations develop their own sense of safety and security. 

Fred is a reserve officer in the Dutch military. He has worked as a civil-military cooperation (CIMIC) specialist in the Dutch Civil-Military Integration Command (CMIC) and at NATO’s Civil-Military Cooperation Centre of Excellence. He is also a lecturer, writer, and speaker.